Blogging: A Real Conversation?
This 28 June event examined the increasing importance and influence of blogs - as sources of trusted opinion and as a barometer of the shifting balance of power in media publishing. Read the report & listen to MP3s...
This 28 June event examined the increasing importance and
influence of blogs – as sources of trusted opinion and as a
barometer of the shifting balance of power in media
publishing...
Report by Deirdre Molloy
MP3 audio & blog coverage
Listen to MP3s of each panel and discussion, and see who else
blogged this event
here.
PANEL 1 – IS BLOGGING A NEW COMMUNICATIONS PARADIGM?
Sabrina Dent - Blogging versus traditional publishing
Sabrina kicked-off by outlining
Mink Media’s
blogs, which focus on travel, UK politics,
shopping, gadgets and weather, explaining that it was
one of the few commercial blog companies in the UK. The she read
from Kevin Kelly’s book ‘Out Of Control’, subtitled ‘the new
biology of the machines’ (1994). In it he describes bees going
on a scouting mission, coming back and dancing for the other
bees, and then bringing more bees back with them. The favourite
sites get more return trips and therefore garnering more
visitors overall. This extract is a great analogy for blogging,
she reflected, but using this analogy from nature we can say
that it's not a new paradigm.
With blogging, Sabrina elaborated, anyone can be the queen,
anyone can build a hive, and be an idiot if they want to, adding
that she didn’t mean idiot in a pejorative way. Citing the
Manolo blog
devoted entirely to shoes, with the aside that she would pay to
read this because “I am Manolo’s bitch”, and
BoingBoing
(as an example of group blogging) she noted how these are not
rarified sites, but rather they link broadly, mixing fun and
intelligent commentary. When anyone can blog, you get all these
different distributed networks of different hives and different
dances. There is a hierarchy of links and trackbacks, but within
that hierarchy you can see the network working and when a
popular blog links out it’s analogous to a swarm of bees dancing
at the new destination.
Commercially what’s interesting is the ability of blogs to
generate buzz. Marquee (who make communications software) paid a
dozen bloggers to blog (transparently) about Marquee once a
week, which generated an incredible amount of noise and feedback
for Marquee about the product from an intelligent group of
consumers and increased sales. The blog Sabrina edits -
Wandalust -
did a deal with W Hotels and offered a very expensive prize as a
marketing effort to position their hotels and clientele. This
had a trickle down effect on the web – 27 blogs immediately
tracked back to the Wandalust blog post, and the story was
picked up by Luxus luxury blog and spread out from there through
the blogosphere community.
The flutter effect is also distinct to blogs. There are very
effective methodologies within blogs, Sabrina explained, to
delivering product information, etc, and increasing sales. But
new media buyers don’t understand that blogs connect mainly by
trackbacks and RSS and don’t work by impressions and
click-through rates, and that banners are not effective
advertising on blogs. But it’s hard to get this through to them
when they measure success by such stats. They need to be more
adventurous in terms of putting themselves in the marketplace to
be
talked about instead of politely sitting on the side,
they need to be willing and brave enough to be the subject of
conversation.
Rafael Behr – blogging, journalism and the media
landscape
Rafael started by defining himself as “a print journalist who
blogs and a blogger who writes for a newspaper”. He outlined the
recent “wikitorial” incident at the LA Times. The paper opened
their online editorial up with a wiki to invite comment and
feedback. Things were going reasonably well, but then the web
monitor went to bed, and the abuse and pornographic pictures
came pouring in. What were the reasons, Rafael asked. For a
start they’d chosen the topic of Iraq for their editorial, and
they’d already written a leader, so what exactly was the wiki
for?
What papers don’t realize, he continued, is the level of
antipathy on the internet to journalists and papers. The
mythology of journalism is that journalists like to think of
themselves as both objective and as mavericks holding the
establishment to account. But from the outside it looks like
they are
in bed with power and complicit with power, and
journalists don’t realise this. The blogosphere see it as their
job to keep the journalists in check. The LA Times invited
people to play and got a veritable kicking from the fifth
estate, who are more maverick than the fourth estate.
Rafael then considered the attitudes of newspaper editors,
proprietors and most traditional journalists to the web in terms
of what it can do for them. He pinpointed three views. First,
online as “alchemy”, the view that print / old media takes that
we can use the internet to turn base metal into gold, save us,
make us new, make us cool. Secondly: “great – internet! Now we
don’t need a print plant” and people who don’t live near us can
read our paper. And thirdly: can we use the internet to
reconnect and bond with our readers? But when newspapers realise
that they are held in the same esteem as politicians, they get a
bit nervous, and the conversation they fear is happening on the
internet and in the blogosphere so they tend to recoil from
opening up to it.
The alchemy view, Rafael reasoned, often leads to bogus or
pseudo-interactivity (eg online polls) which are just
patronising to the readers. The problem with number two is
revenue. With a printed paper you get rates, and profiles of
your readers social groups, etc, but no-one like ads on
websites. The advertising model has also proven problematic, and
ad pop-up blockers etc, route around such interruptions to the
consumer experience. The fact that Sabrina would pay for the
Manolo blog is a possible direction for the future, he said. Not
a lot of people made a lot of money from good karma, Rafael
joked.
The “internet” / “hinternet” dichotomy that was also explored in
Ben Hamersley’s 11 June
talk at the Reboot conference in Denmark the
previous week made sense to Rafael, because the “hinternet” –
home of the mass majority of web users who cannot control their
online experience and are constantly subject to pop-ups,
horrendous amounts of spam, viruses, spyware and a dozen other
unpleasantnesses – is bigger than the civilised internet.
Because of this persisting division, subscriptions will do well
in the future, he surmised, because part of what you’re selling
to people is a safe environment.
Speaking of the blog initiative begun since February 2005 at The
Observer (Rafael is their
blogger-in-chief, supported by occasional
contributions from other journalists), he said that it started
as a blog about the newspaper but has morphed away from that and
has become more of a mechanism for him to become their
blogosphere correspondent. When they launched, Rafael reckons he
was naïve, he did expect some flack but not the harsh PR-bating
he encountered. They didn’t expect people to say “this a is a
sham, a PR trick, etcetera”. Disingenuousness is ruthlessly
punished in the blogosphere he explained, and when they posted
about Mink Media near the beginning they got heaps of scathing
feedback.
The cold war between the blogosphere and Mainstream Media is
partly down to when blogging has taken off, and the divisive
idea that Bush has fostered that to be critical in a time of
crisis is to be “non-patriotic”, and bloggers feel that because
of this the media are not critical enough of government. This
has created an incredibly confrontational climate between
bloggers and the media in the US. But the suspicion of
journalists is overdone, Rafael argued.
The technology is easy, accessible and democratic, and will
become more so, he reckoned. Soon, having a blog will be like
having a hotmail account, and it won’t be a story. In France
already it is largescale. We’re reaching the end of a cycle
where blogging is unusual and cool. Some blogs will get
popularity through the swarming effect, others through
mainstream media marketing spend. Human aggregators will become
increasingly important, he predicted, counter to the RSS model,
and the role of editorial judgment and recommendation will
remain strong. This is not a new paradigm, he insisted. Like
email, blogging changes the idiom and makes everything faster.
Old media are not screwed, Rafael added, unless they stick to
the alchemy model.
Mike Beeston – Nano-publishing and the social media
revival
Mike took a historical perspective on contemporary developments.
In 1817 the government was unpopular, the French war had just
finished, the majority were very poor, and hardly anyone had the
vote. People met and planned to do something on 9th June. But
the problem with these cells was the time and distance gap
between them. They knew a lot about each other but they couldn’t
really co-ordinate themselves to do anything together. Jeremiah
Brandreth, the organiser, marched a dwindling group of some 300
many miles to the rendezvous point only to find the expected
support wasn’t there (he had been tricked by a government agent
provocateur), and he was arrested, hung, drawn and quartered
(the implication seeming to be that with today’s tools this
would be less likely to happen).
At roughly the same time, printing presses began to publish
pamphlets and the pauper press flourished. These were personal
missives about what people felt about society, in many ways the
blogs of their time. They were great in variety. Some of these
pamphlets sold up to 5,000-10,000 copies each, some as many as
30,000. People would meet every night, like blogging
communities, and someone who was literate would read them out.
But in 1818 the government introduced a tax (in the form of the
Newspaper Stamp Duties Act) that at a stroke made publishing too
expensive for most and inaugurated the era of the “established”
or mainstream media. In 1832 after much agitation an Act was
passed that caused change in the voting laws (which resulted in
one in seven males being able to vote). The reason it happened
was because of the press – briefly, for the first time, anyone
could publish and disseminate ideas. For the first time they had
a democratic medium, and their opinions were shared. The
masthead of one said: Knowledge is power.
Fast forward through 160 years of centralised media control, and
along comes a man called Tim Berners-Lee. Periodically, Mike
noted, there had been flurries of democratic communication that
rose up, like pirate radio, but they were always pushed back
down and incorporated by the mainstream. But now we have blogs
and links that are made instantly, and all the way around the
world. The shift is not in blogging or personal publishing, but
in the
links, and how the linkage system works, Mike
reasoned, which is why RSS has taken off. Journalism isn’t going
away but blogging is a disruptive system to the mainstream… when
we have the time to consume it. The problem is that people can’t
deal with it. The demands put on people today are too much, and
they’re often NOT getting a conversation out of it.
He distinguished between three types of communication space:
public, semi-public and private. We group all conversations into
one or more of these categories. Taking the
Nokia Lifeblog initiative that Fjord are
involved in, Mike stressed that the semi-public areas are the
really interesting are is where we are sharing real conversation
with small groups. These semi-public conversations also offer
the scope and possibility of significant change, as with
Mexico’s
Zapatistas (Editor's note:
Manuel Castells calls the current Zapatistas
“the first informational guerrilla movement”, while another
terms such movements “global distributed hactivism”),
and the role of the mobile phone in the
Philippines political upheaval in
2002.
The resurgence of personal or nano-publications (like blog
diaries) is upon us, and links combine these publications
together to create a very powerful system. This also stands true
for brands – brands have to be wary of carrying on the way they
have because if something bad happens and they’re not integrated
with the system it could be very disruptive for them. They’ve
got to be listening and taking part, and so blogging presents
opportunities for marketers to improve their systems.
Panel & audience discussion:
Jackie Danicki of
Latitude (and formerly The Big Blog Company)
said that nowadays it’s frustrating to come to an event and not
to have first seen all of the speakers’ blogs, because through
their blogs you meet their minds before you meet them in person.
Steve Bowbrick asked the panel how they felt about this concept
of “pre-knowledge”. Rafael responded that the opposite is often
true – anonymity makes people do strange things. Sabrina said
that when she started blogging on a personal basis (before she
worked on a blog) she preferred to write for strangers, but when
she realised that people she knew, knew more about her than she
did about them, then it became a problem and too uncomfortable
for.
Mike Beeston said that our centre and sense of identity that we
project is going to be centred on the mobile phone, and the
question of etiquette, or social rules, regarding this is very
important. Picking up on this Rafael said that The Observer had
had phone ideas pitched to them and noted that under 30’s wont
walk away from a group when they answer the phone now – in fact
they often include the caller in the conversation of group they
are with.
Alistair Shrimpton of blog software vendors
Six Apart
explained that new level of mass-blogging is about to come
through with the MSN and Yahoo lightweight blogging services
that they have integrated with their overall suite of
communications tools (IM, email, web-to-mobile texting, etc).
The largest group using the
LiveJournal platform owned by SixApart is the
17-22 age group, while universities are signing up at a rate of
knots for students and staff to have a blogging experience of
some sort.
Sabrina Dent raised the interesting prospect of a new generation
of people coming into the workplace and into corporate settings
who will be expecting to apply the personal blogging model to
work communications and email. James Cherkoff of
Collaborate Marketing remarked that spelling
badly in a corporate context is a laugh rather than dangerous.
Rafael said that we mustn’t overstate the power of geek kudos -
their knowledge doesn’t give geeks onging power to sit in
judgment on this phenomenon because they don’t own it.
Robin Grant of politics blog
Perfect and
digital agency
Proximity said the new MSN mass youth market
of bloggers, commercial blogs, agitating/political blogs are all
very different in what they do. Replying to the downplaying of
the phenomenon, Steve Bowbrick said something of great
significance is happening, and it will be seen in the result of
exposing our institutions to a massively increased amount of
debate and feedback. Mike commented that people now want to
express themselves in a more vocal and expressive way.
Sabrina responded that people bitching won’t always change
things, like it hasn’t changed Microsoft’s market share. But
Johnnie Moore countered that Microsoft has had to change its
anti-gay policies and Jackie Danicki added that MSN’s new RSS
tool is under the
Creative Commons licence, proof that
Microsoft
has responded to the criticisms leveled at it,
and that complaining does have an effect. Robin Grant noted that
there is an emergent conversation coming from the network
facilitated by blogs that no-one is directing.
Rafael distinguished consumer power and political power and
Nicky Lewis of
Panos London addressed his point, explaining
that NGOs were waking up to the power of blogs. They realise
that blogs are allowing institutions usually very formal in
approach to get their message out in a less formal and faster
manner.
Chris Jennings wondered what, in terms of
weekly papers, the effect of continuous blogs would be, ie. the
impact of continual publishing.
PANEL 2 – ARE BLOGS THE NEW VOICES OF AUTHORITY?
Suw Charman – The Myth Of Objectivity Exposed
Suw began by offering some definitions of objectivity as
featured in the dictionary, stressing “facts uncoloured by
feeling” and she compared this perception of facts as akin to
the facts used in the hypotheses of science. We also see it in
journalism, she continued, facts presented in a dispassionate
manner. And in business – the collective endeavour incorporated
in a distinct legal entity separate from the directors, because
it’s a brand with a personality – despite the fact that this is
all imposed on us.
Objectivity is however fundamentally impossible, she asserted.
The dichotomy of giving two sides of a story is not objectivity
as it misses out all the shades of grey in between. Factual
reporting is not objectivity, but can be biased. Language can be
biased, as per terrorist / freedom fighter / revolutionary. We
all have passions that consciously or sub-consciously colour
what we think and say.
Suw stressed that she wasn’t saying that those who were trying
to be objective were lying; she doesn’t make that value
judgment. But who are we fooling? Who actually believes that Fox
News or the BBC are objective?
Dan
Gillmor suggests more attainable goals: thoroughness,
accuracy, fairness and transparency. Be honest about your bias.
In the blogosphere no-one expects objectivity. We filter
“objective” announcements, eg corporate press releases, because
that’s how we all interact, that’s how we filter.
Because of this inherent bias of the blogosphere, markets don’t
understand a few important things. One: Personality is very
important in the blogosphere. No-one wants to read the Microsoft
press release, but they do want to read
Scoble and
Microsoft have taken a big step in allowing an employee
developer to become more trusted than Bill Gates. Two: Being
honest about what you don’t know. In regard to this Suw cited
the Kryptonite case where a video of how to crack their bicycle
lock with a ballpoint pen was posted on the internet and spread
through blogs. The marketers didn’t have the strength to
immediately step up and say they had made a mistake. And this
cost them not only the trust of consumers but a lot of money.
Three: you have to accept complexity. It’s an increasingly
complex society, and in the blogosphere you don’t have to
condense everything down to a 30 second soundbite because there
people are more interested in finding out what others think on
subjects of common interest. As explored in
Steven
Johnson’s book
‘Everything Bad Is Good For Us’ Suw concurred
that complexity has increased, and she asked us to embrace
subjectivity.
Johnnie Moore – Authentic authority
Johnnie showed a powerful clip of Ceausescu’s last speech in
public where the crowd stopped obediently listening and started
shouting back. Johnnie spoke of the delusion of authority that
is easy to sustain, but then what happens... He spoke of the
figures of authority who “are the last in the room to realise
that no-one is listening to them anymore”. A blog who only 3 or
4 others read is just as important. The part of “authority” that
he likes is that the blogger is the “author” of their own
experience. If we are overwhelmed by information, he wondered,
then why is blogging growing?
Lloyd Davis (
Perfect Path) responded that blogging was a
way of responding to the question “who am I”? Blogging gives him
a forum to work that out and discuss it, sharing others’
experiences and opinions in public. And this collectivising of
experience is not dependent on the sanction or approval of some
other greater force. Mike Beeston added that the giving out of
authority has diminished over the last 30 years. Our businesses
have less authority than they had before, and this isn’t just a
technological phenomenon. After Monty Python it was a lot harder
to take the idea of an army major seriously any more.
Blogging changes me, Johnnie said. Companies should blog not
just to change the world or consumers’ behaviour but to change
themselves. For example, a post Johnnie made about how easy it
was to get drugs planted on you in Indonesia and end up in jail
sparked a huge wave of comments on his blog. First it was a very
authoritarian bunch of comments and he wondered if he should
switch the comments off. But he couldn’t stand the idea of being
censorious, and then another wave of comments came in taking
them to task and real debate ensued. Where else would you get
such conversation? Blogging makes us better people, he
concluded.
Adriana Cronin-Lukas – Blogs: Ripping Up The Marketing
Mix
Adriana started commenting that if blogs had existed before the
Ceaucescu overthrow that the cold war wouldn’t have lasted so
long. As a "traditional blogger" she looked at
traditional sources for a definition of authority. One: “An
accepted source of expert information or advice.” A blog helps a
blogger to create content and publishing and translate the
expert information and advice for the blogging audience. Two:
“How to influence or persuade resulting from knowledge or
experience”. Again it helps the blogger to build her confidence
from the experience of articulating their thoughts, ideas or
arguments. Three: “Confidence derived from practice, firm
self-assurance”. Again, this comes from the network and the
community of other bloggers and readers that the blogger
engages. For her blogging captures all three aspects of the
definition of authority.
Bias + Transparency = Credibility, Adriana asserted.
Transparency or “pseudo-objectivity” on its own is boring. Bias
on its own nobody believes, and so the company loses
credibility. Personality may be another way of expressing bias,
but she’s talking about commercial blogs that aren’t based on a
personal agenda. The marketing industry is trying to trick
people into paying attention, she continued. It needs to get its
message out at any cost, and it’s about economies of scale,
about finding the mass channels of communication. But
interruptive communications are becoming increasingly harder to
do, and more expensive to achieve because people are no longer
hoodwinked by such messages. And one of the costs is that loss
of credibility if you push things too far. Whereas blogging is
engagement, it’s a conversation you can’t fake. Transparency and
market and credibility can be generated. In terms of economies,
it’s about re-aggregation, targeting the right niches and
finding ways through the network to re-aggregate those
interests, perhaps in a different dimension.
She concurs with
Doc Searls that markets are conversations.
Important among the reasons people read blogs is for honesty and
transparent bias. For Adriana, blogs are about storytelling,
credibility, and about permanence. It is
not advertising.
She explored how people see content through the metaphor of
pipes and channels. Blogs cannot be fitted into this picture.
Lots of companies see the internet as just another channel, but
she sees the internet as the thing that
surrounds the
pipes and that is puncturing all the channels. The content is
leaking out and online is aggregating things in different
places, with the print media pipeline it’s blogs, with radio
it’s podcasting, with TV it’s videoblogging, video search and so
forth. Therefore it’s not another channel, she emphasised, but
is what unites the common phenomenon that is impacting
journalism, PR and marketing - a disruption of the process of
sending a message or information from “originator” to the
“ultimate audience”. From one end of the pipe where all the
content is getting shoved in it looks fine, but from the other
end you can see that its not all going through but is leaking
out everywhere. So all these industries are affected by new
tools like blogging.
This is a confusing landscape, Adriana commented. She described
online like an underworld, shady and coming up from under the
radar of traditional industries. It
is a landscape and
there are ways to understand and navigate it, she elaborated,
although many don’t know this yet. What is different about this
world? One of the underlying principles is the many-to-many
distribution network that undermines the one-way system.
Transparency and speed also changes the dynamics of interaction.
Online is also much faster, and shows the bottlenecks in the
system and things that were there before but weren’t visible.
And it amplifies, sometimes with deafening clarity, things that
were not heard before.
Adriana clarified the meaning of transparency – you can amplify
the message but no-one today has total control of the message or
how it gets heard at the other end. The main challenge is the
effect of all the tools on the balance of power between the
broadcaster and the audience. It’s a loop wherein you get the
individual who is powerful enough to disrupt and change the
message of the broadcaster, but then the broadcaster realises
that, a phase that we’re at the beginning of now. So bloggers
are breaking the marketing toolbox.
Adriana looked at some unfortunate examples of marketing blogs.
She spoke of blogs as “multi-tools”, tools that let us create
media, software that is history’s cheapest, easiest publishing
tool connected to history’s best communication network. If you
are interested in something, you go and find it and give your
attention to the value you are getting from it.. Within this
setting, you have a value-to-value exchange in the attention you
give to any blog: you give it your attention and it gives you
something for free, but attention is a very valuable commodity.
So it’s not free, just differently monetisable. Blogs allow
people to have a lot more control of their environment, and so
blogging goes back to the individual level and empowers the
individual to do something they couldn’t before.
Blogs can be brand activators, she continued. For Sun, blogs are
more than traditional brand extensions, they understand that
blogs provide a platform on which the community can come
together to share and interact with regard to their experience.
Jonathan
Schwartz’s blog is not personal, but it is a biased
insider’s view – he writes about things in the industry that
interest him. Nobody expects him to be objective. Blogs have
authenticated the Sun Microsystems brand more than a billion
dollar ad campaign could have done. She also cited independent
blogs from enthusiasts over whom the brand has no control, and
in terms of improving the bottom line, she pinpointed the
blog for
online DVD and video rental outfit
Green
Cine. Initially they were skeptical about it, but it has
doubled their earnings.
Adriana painted a stark picture of two very different trends in
advertising and routes they are beginning to go down. One is the
“louder” route of using new technologies to make the message
louder and harder to escape, which is very distressing, (banner
ads, visual, metrics and surveys – pseudo interactivity). This
road leads to the “scum of the internet” world of adware and
spyware. Based on statistics published by the Internet
Advertising Bureau, spyware could represent almost 25% of the
entire online advertising industry. Or it could go the way of
engagement, which is more difficult and requires far more
innovation. It’s about conversation, two-way exchange,
generating credibility, personality, online presence, using
blogs as our medium, and about understanding the network. It’s a
conversation and amplification. You use it to articulate your
own message and also you use the network to distribute that
message. These are very different roads and it’s up to the
marketing industry to decide which one it will take.
Panel & audience discussion:
Mike Butcher asked if bloggers would be co-opted by being hired
by agencies to blog or give endorsement to products
surreptitiously. Suw Charman said the idea of manufacturing buzz
or word-of-mouth is deeply flawed. People won’t accept marketing
interruptions in the blogosphere and the shortlived Creative
Commons hiring of
BzzAgent was salutary in this respect. The
Creative Commons community spoke up, saying "we are the
grassroots, the people who really care about CC and are
spreading the word, and the BzzAgent people are sullying the CC
initiative." So rules of etiquette apply.
Why even use agencies for blogging, Adriana commented, get
several people or someone in the company to do it. She disliked
the “ministry of fun” mindset at work in the traditional
approach, the view that thinks “first it was the DJs, now it’s
the Bloggers!” Suw concurred that most marketers are stuck on
the idea that bloggers can provide them with third party
recommendations. Steve Bowbrick reckoned however, that it was
possible to do this.
Craig Hill of
Digital Outlook countered that most good
agencies were more mature, and believed that no money should
exchange hands in relationship-building with bloggers and other
trusted intermediaries online. He added that most people in buzz
marketing agencies have worked it out, and they are also part of
the communities of interest they are operating in.
Jackie Danicki of Latitude honed in on the new media press,
reckoning that a lot of what we’re presented with is
advertorial. If you place a lot of ads, you get a lot of
coverage and the sought-after feature interview. The problem is
that people sense this, and they know that a lot of the best
discussion in new media is online and in the blogosphere. Suw
responded to this distinguishing two types of authority:
“claimed” (through branding and/or owning your printing press)
and “given” (in the blogosphere) and these are very different.
As we see the erosion of claimed authority, we can turn to the
people online who
really know. To this Jackie added that
purchased authority is also on the decline.
Rafael said that objective authority is something that you
aspire to, even though you may not achieve it. First you had
literacy, but now you have widespread media literacy, a type of
meta-understanding. Many journalists don’t understand why their
paper sales are plummeting, and it’s the same with advertising.
Mike Butcher
disagreed, noting that young people still buy Nike
en
masse. But James Cherkoff said that Nike, et al, have moved
away from mass marketing techniques. Lloyd Davis raised the
issue of a shared social etiquette, and the difficulties of
creating this in a global environment. If we encourage
subjectivity and freedom of speech, there is the possibility
that some people will use this dangerously and violently.
However, blogging and self-publishing gives you a chance to
re-read and re-view you own positions, he added, and when you
meet people with similar interests from different cultures, that
changes things.
Suw Charman said she saw blogging rather as a tool to strengthen
and rebuild local bonds and communities. Companies could be
facilitators in this process. Responding to a question about the
political impact of blogging, Suw said that in Iran, the
election result wasn’t impacted, but maybe by the time of the
next election blogging will have impact. Rafael recounted
that he had been in Iran, and all the young people dislike the
Mullahs. They all use the internet and Instant Messaging, but
all they look at is porn because that is the thing that they
can’t see under the current regime. Adriana rejoined that this
betokens a desire for a better lifestyle. The internet, she
said, sees interruption as damage that it routes around and
heals. Rafael added that the impact of bloggers on the
French/Dutch no-vote to a European constitution was more of a
chicken and egg situation than a case of one-way
influence.
(scroll down for MP3s of the event and more…)
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About the speakers:
Chair - Steve Bowbrick - blogger & entrepreneur
Steve Bowbrick is a veteran of twelve years in the Internet
business, a one-time academic, van driver and librarian, founder
of pioneering web design firm Webmedia and the boom era UK email
service another.com. Steve's been blogging for three years
at
www.bowblog.com.
Sabrina Dent – Managing Editor, Mink
Media
Sabrina is the Managing Editor at Mink Media, a commercial blog
publisher focused on the emerging UK market. She has been
involved in developing online communities since 1995, and was
previously Director of Online Services for a UK new media house
before leaving to develop websites, blogs and blogging services
at Digital Parade. She is also a freelance writer who prefers
adventure by cocktail and can be found in hotel bars around the
globe. When not traveling, she and her passport reside in London
with her husband. She is the editor of
wandalust.com Wanda Lust, the UK travel
blog.
Rafael Behr - Online Editor, Observer
Rafael is Online Editor at the Observer. He is a regular leader
writer and book reviewer for the newspaper and, since early
2005, has also been its
blogger-in-chief. Rafael has previously
worked as a business reporter for BBC Online, as a foreign
correspondent in Eastern Europe for the Financial Times and as
an editor on FT.com. He fancies himself as a bit of an internet
geek, but he doesn't know very much about how computers
actually work. He gives thanks for Moveable Type.
Mike Beeston - Managing Director, Fjord
Mike is MD at Fjord, a creative consultancy innovating and
bringing to market mobile products and services for clients that
include Nokia, Orange and Telia Sonera. Previously he co-founded
CHBi one of the UK's first web development companies which,
in 1998, was sold to Razorfish for whom Mike continued as UK
Managing Director through until 2001. His early career in
advertising included 6 years at Saatchi and Saatchi where he was
a Media Group Director. In addition to running Fjord, he
consults with clients on the ability of mobile to service
communities and enable content creation and publishing.
Suw Charman - Blog consultant & journalist
Suw Charman is a blog consultant, researcher and journalist
specialising in business blogging, social software and digital
rights. She blogs regularly about these and related subjects at
Strange Attractor
www.corante.com/strange/. She has worked
as a consultant in the UK and USA, advising companies on the use
of blogs in external and internal contexts. Suw has spoken at
the LSE about the effect of blogging on journalism, at the
Northern Voice Blogging Conference on how to increase blog
traffic, and will be speaking at the Supernova technology
conference in June 2005 about business blogging. Her journalism
has also been published in The Guardian and design magazine
Design In-Flight.
Johnnie Moore - Marketing consultant & facilitator
Johnnie's first job was as speechwriter/researcher to Lord
(Alan) Sainsbury before going into advertising - first as a
copywriter, later as a strategist. He started his own
consultancy in 1988. He now divides his time between marketing
advice and facilitation. He has trained in humanistic
psychotherapy, NLP and improv - as well as learning to fly. He
is co-author of the book 'Beyond Branding' (Kogan Page,
2003) and a founder of the Applied Improvisation Network (
www.appliedimprov.net). Johnnie started
blogging in 2003 at
www.johnniemoore.com and is a
collaborator in
www.opensaucelive.com He's also
co-author of
www.173drurylane.com, a blog about
Sainsbury's which was once flatteringly described as "a
sort of Open Source marketing consultancy".
Adriana Cronin-Lukas - Communications & Blog Consultant,
The Big
Blog Company
Was released from Balliol into the community in 1996, serving
time as a management consultant with a Big Five firm in Central
and Eastern Europe - 'management' and
'consultancy' meaning something to businesses in those
parts of the world. All this came to an end in 2002 when it
became obvious that blogging is much more enjoyable than real
work. Since then, blogging has become the main preoccupation and
a route to regaining sanity lost somewhere on the fourth floor
of a tall, marble-encrusted building in the City. Adriana has
applied her analytical powers to the potential of blogging and
would like to make sure that companies also understand that
markets are conversations. Occasionally she gets accused of
problem-solving.
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